In this episode of Washington City Podcast, food editor Laura Hayes talks with Kathy Hollinger, president of the Restaurant Association of Metropolitan Washington. RAMW is a trade association that represents restaurants and the foodservice industry in the D.C. area.

For five years, Hollinger has observed and navigated massive changes in the city’s food scene—from the Michelin guide to the current pop-up craze. 2017 brought more of the same for D.C.: a slew of new openings and accolades. Hayes asks Hollinger about how the industry struggles to staff its many new openings, what The Wharf means for D.C. dining, and the realities of being a dynamic, growing industry in a major city. They had this conversation as a part of City Paper’s annual People Issue, which came out last month.

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 Music for this episode was by Lee Rosevere, used under the Creative Commons license.